And clearly, sex and selling something is EXACTLY the same thing. Yeah, totally. That’s why there’s MONEY involved. Oh, wait, hold on a second. Isn’t prostitution illegal? Hmmm….

Once again: you’re an idiot!

-insert ethnic designation here- Foreplay

In sales class we were taught a ‘no’ is a request for more information.
If having to make 7 years of $319 payments on a car isn’t a form of rape.
It damn well should be.

Really just because we’re disagreeing with you on certain points, we’re not the enemy.

To present your question sincerely is to exhibit a complete lack of understanding of what rape is. This is what I find absurd.

I apologize for the name-calling. I should more correctly have said I found your question idiotic and irrelevant.

I asked it sincerely, and I’m called an idiot. I’m in no way offended, but I’m curious why you wouldn’t just answer the question?

I suspect that we look at these things in different ways. You look at the theoretical, while I look at the practical, real-world consequences. But I’m willing to listen.

And no, Anna doesn’t have “cred” to casually veto the way any traumatized person identifies with the sexual violation they’ve experienced just because she’s been raped. She’s not the only one; I have been, too, and I dealt with a huge amount of repression and pain exactly due to arrogant attitudes like Anna’s that made me feel as though I didn’t have a right to call what happened to me rape. I have PTSD. It’s a problem in my daily life. Most of the time, I can’t be touched on the neck or wrists, or smell a certain cologne without having flashbacks and panic attacks, and for me, feeling comfortable owning my rape as rape was an absolutely necessary step in healing. My “cred” taught me that it’s fucking dangerous to try to limit other peoples’ identification and experiences because you’re arrogant enough to think it’s okay for you to define other peoples’ lives. I don’t like the thought that any other survivor might go through guilt and denial and confusion I did, just because the world is full of people like you and Anna.

I also don’t believe that coercion is rape but this example is beyond absurd.

MalkuthSephira: She’s defining the experience by the lens of her OWN experience. I’d say she’s got cred.

For evaluation:

Barbie and Ken are getting ready to go to bed.

Barbie gives and exagerated yawn, and says she’s really tired. Ken, sensing he’s not going to get laid, begins to massage her back. She says,”I think I’d just like to get some sleep.”

He responds, “Come on, baby– you’ll like it.”

She sighs, and says, “Well, let’s hurry up then– no foreplay.”

He does, and they both come, and fall asleep. The next morning, she is tired, but admits that the orgasm hits the spot. Earlier to bed tonight, she thinks.

Question: Has Barbie been raped?