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		<title>By: On PDA and Sexual Orientation</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-16231</link>
		<dc:creator>On PDA and Sexual Orientation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written before about the guilt that I experience over my heterosexual privilege. It&#8217;s something that I find myself thinking about a lot, especially when I&#8217;m in a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Staci</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11874</link>
		<dc:creator>Staci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree.  Butch and femme are gender identities and are not chosen. Obviously there are lots of genderqueer and genderfuck folks too who do to some extent choose a gender presentation, but again, that&#039;s who they are and how they identify. And it&#039;s definitely much more complex than just clothing or makeup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree.  Butch and femme are gender identities and are not chosen. Obviously there are lots of genderqueer and genderfuck folks too who do to some extent choose a gender presentation, but again, that&#8217;s who they are and how they identify. And it&#8217;s definitely much more complex than just clothing or makeup.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11872</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 04:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I relate to this.</description>
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		<title>By: PandaDementia</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11871</link>
		<dc:creator>PandaDementia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your input, Eve. Though I still wish guilt weren&#039;t a feeling associated with being who you are, your response helped me understand it much better. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your input, Eve. Though I still wish guilt weren&#8217;t a feeling associated with being who you are, your response helped me understand it much better. <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11870</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really that we don&#039;t actually deserve that privilege or enjoy its benefits (because who doesn&#039;t deserve or enjoy the privilege of not being discriminated against?), it&#039;s more a feeling of not deserving it. I don&#039;t know that anyone&#039;s telling us to feel this way, but it does appear to be a common feeling among some queer people who pass as hetero or as having &quot;normal&quot; gender expression. (judging by the comments, not all of us feel that way, but a noticeable group of us do)

I think it&#039;s something to do with feeling cut off from the queer community or somehow not deserving to be accepted in the queer community (or sometimes actually not being accepted by parts of the queer community) because we don&#039;t necessarily share the common experience of what it&#039;s like to be discriminated against for being queer (or just the experience of what it&#039;s like to be queer in general if a lot of our experiences overlap more with those of straight people). And a surprising number of people in the queer community don&#039;t take us seriously as being legitimately queer, which I think directly ties into the feeling of guilt over seeming straight or not being &quot;queer enough&quot;.

Plus it just feels weird and kind of icky to constantly be treated like someone I&#039;m not or have it assumed that I&#039;m someone I&#039;m not. I think for me, that&#039;s even bigger than the privilege aspect, as important as that is. I want to be recognized for who I am, not for who people think I look like. Does that make sense?

I agree that it would feel a lot better not to feel guilty over something outside my control, but I think that&#039;s just part of figuring out what my queer identity means to me. I&#039;m still figuring out where I fit, and in the mean time I feel a lot of confusing and conflicting things. That&#039;s why I think it&#039;s important to talk about these things, especially since it&#039;s obvious I&#039;m not the only one grappling with these kinds of feelings about being queer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not really that we don&#8217;t actually deserve that privilege or enjoy its benefits (because who doesn&#8217;t deserve or enjoy the privilege of not being discriminated against?), it&#8217;s more a feeling of not deserving it. I don&#8217;t know that anyone&#8217;s telling us to feel this way, but it does appear to be a common feeling among some queer people who pass as hetero or as having &#8220;normal&#8221; gender expression. (judging by the comments, not all of us feel that way, but a noticeable group of us do)</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s something to do with feeling cut off from the queer community or somehow not deserving to be accepted in the queer community (or sometimes actually not being accepted by parts of the queer community) because we don&#8217;t necessarily share the common experience of what it&#8217;s like to be discriminated against for being queer (or just the experience of what it&#8217;s like to be queer in general if a lot of our experiences overlap more with those of straight people). And a surprising number of people in the queer community don&#8217;t take us seriously as being legitimately queer, which I think directly ties into the feeling of guilt over seeming straight or not being &#8220;queer enough&#8221;.</p>
<p>Plus it just feels weird and kind of icky to constantly be treated like someone I&#8217;m not or have it assumed that I&#8217;m someone I&#8217;m not. I think for me, that&#8217;s even bigger than the privilege aspect, as important as that is. I want to be recognized for who I am, not for who people think I look like. Does that make sense?</p>
<p>I agree that it would feel a lot better not to feel guilty over something outside my control, but I think that&#8217;s just part of figuring out what my queer identity means to me. I&#8217;m still figuring out where I fit, and in the mean time I feel a lot of confusing and conflicting things. That&#8217;s why I think it&#8217;s important to talk about these things, especially since it&#8217;s obvious I&#8217;m not the only one grappling with these kinds of feelings about being queer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brilliance Proper</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11865</link>
		<dc:creator>Brilliance Proper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the first time I&#039;ve commented on your new blog.  As a black man I can say that I have certain &quot;privileges&quot; based on my appearance but of course I have ones I lose as well because of my appearance.  To talk to any other group of black people I seem &quot;normal.&quot;  I wear baggy clothes and I listed to rap music.  However I&#039;m married to a white woman and so after this is found out I become  &quot;that&quot; black man.  The one they assume doesn&#039;t love black women/people because of my mate choice... and that&#039;s a privilege I don&#039;t want.  I get treated different because of my wife?  Fuck you.  Can I say I don&#039;t ever enjoy some of the benefits of being me?  Never.  You should enjoy who you are and what you are.  

That&#039;s why  I don&#039;t get the part about privileges you don&#039;t &#039;deserve.&#039;  

In the same sense I could say that a black kid born into wealth doesn&#039;t deserve what he gets because other black kids are born poor.  In that same sense I could say that Pax (Angelina Jolie&#039;s adopted kid) is undeserving because he was picked out of his country/group/family to live the high life.  It doesn&#039;t make sense.  You are fundamentally you.  You always will be.  But privilege based on appearance isn&#039;t much but talk, perception and assumption.  Everyone looks like something or someone who does something.  Be you regardless and don&#039;t go out of your way to feel guilty because you look different than you act.   What does a bi woman or man look like?  A gay one?  There&#039;s no template so never act like there is or go out of your way to feel guilty.  You&#039;ll feel better later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the first time I&#8217;ve commented on your new blog.  As a black man I can say that I have certain &#8220;privileges&#8221; based on my appearance but of course I have ones I lose as well because of my appearance.  To talk to any other group of black people I seem &#8220;normal.&#8221;  I wear baggy clothes and I listed to rap music.  However I&#8217;m married to a white woman and so after this is found out I become  &#8220;that&#8221; black man.  The one they assume doesn&#8217;t love black women/people because of my mate choice&#8230; and that&#8217;s a privilege I don&#8217;t want.  I get treated different because of my wife?  Fuck you.  Can I say I don&#8217;t ever enjoy some of the benefits of being me?  Never.  You should enjoy who you are and what you are.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why  I don&#8217;t get the part about privileges you don&#8217;t &#8216;deserve.&#8217;  </p>
<p>In the same sense I could say that a black kid born into wealth doesn&#8217;t deserve what he gets because other black kids are born poor.  In that same sense I could say that Pax (Angelina Jolie&#8217;s adopted kid) is undeserving because he was picked out of his country/group/family to live the high life.  It doesn&#8217;t make sense.  You are fundamentally you.  You always will be.  But privilege based on appearance isn&#8217;t much but talk, perception and assumption.  Everyone looks like something or someone who does something.  Be you regardless and don&#8217;t go out of your way to feel guilty because you look different than you act.   What does a bi woman or man look like?  A gay one?  There&#8217;s no template so never act like there is or go out of your way to feel guilty.  You&#8217;ll feel better later.</p>
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		<title>By: PandaDementia</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/on-heterosexual-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-11864</link>
		<dc:creator>PandaDementia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The privilege explanation does, yes, thank you, but I still don&#039;t understand feeling guilty. How can one &quot;deserve&quot; (or not deserve) and &quot;receive&quot; privilege? Isn&#039;t it just our lot in life, what we&#039;re born into? 
And, again, my thought is that you shouldn&#039;t feel guilty that who you are helps you escape discrimination. I am in a similar boat that you are, being a femme bisexual, and I rally against discrimination against the LGBT community, but I would never feel guilty or apologize for the fact that I don&#039;t have to suffer through it. 
Anyways, it&#039;s hard for me to wrap my brain around but thanks for trying to explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The privilege explanation does, yes, thank you, but I still don&#8217;t understand feeling guilty. How can one &#8220;deserve&#8221; (or not deserve) and &#8220;receive&#8221; privilege? Isn&#8217;t it just our lot in life, what we&#8217;re born into?<br />
And, again, my thought is that you shouldn&#8217;t feel guilty that who you are helps you escape discrimination. I am in a similar boat that you are, being a femme bisexual, and I rally against discrimination against the LGBT community, but I would never feel guilty or apologize for the fact that I don&#8217;t have to suffer through it.<br />
Anyways, it&#8217;s hard for me to wrap my brain around but thanks for trying to explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilt over the fact that I&#039;m receiving privilege that I don&#039;t deserve. Guilt that I&#039;m queer, yet most of the time, I don&#039;t suffer the same discrimination that many other queer people do.

As for how I look being a choice, to a large extent, yes, it is. But at the same time, gender really *isn&#039;t* much of a choice, and I&#039;m not someone that has a more butch or masculine gender identity. I could choose to dress that way, but it&#039;s not who I am and wouldn&#039;t fit with how I feel about myself. Many more butch lesbians dress that way because it&#039;s how they&#039;re comfortable. Their gender identity isn&#039;t feminine, even though they are female and happy to be so. So while they choose to dress the way they do, it&#039;s moreso to match their gender identity and appearance. I&#039;m not butch, so I don&#039;t necessarily &quot;choose&quot; to be femme; it&#039;s just who I am. Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilt over the fact that I&#8217;m receiving privilege that I don&#8217;t deserve. Guilt that I&#8217;m queer, yet most of the time, I don&#8217;t suffer the same discrimination that many other queer people do.</p>
<p>As for how I look being a choice, to a large extent, yes, it is. But at the same time, gender really *isn&#8217;t* much of a choice, and I&#8217;m not someone that has a more butch or masculine gender identity. I could choose to dress that way, but it&#8217;s not who I am and wouldn&#8217;t fit with how I feel about myself. Many more butch lesbians dress that way because it&#8217;s how they&#8217;re comfortable. Their gender identity isn&#8217;t feminine, even though they are female and happy to be so. So while they choose to dress the way they do, it&#8217;s moreso to match their gender identity and appearance. I&#8217;m not butch, so I don&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;choose&#8221; to be femme; it&#8217;s just who I am. Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: alana</title>
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		<dc:creator>alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. 

I know this post is about heterosexual privilege, but I also think a lot of this stems from the general distrust (though I feel like that may be too harsh of a word) a lot of people have towards bisexual people. Staci summed it up what I’m getting at with, “Straight men assume I’ll fuck anything that moves but the butch dykes I lust after don’t trust me.” 

I also think there is a quantitative expectation with bisexuals. It’s like you have to parcel up your feelings and experiences so other people can judge whether or not you’re “truly” bisexual. Does that make sense? Like every individual factor gets considered. (Do you have sex with the same sex? Have you dated someone of the same sex? Would you ever date someone of the same sex? Are you dating someone of the same sex right now? Is it because you prefer the opposite sex or is it just down to chance essentially?) It can get pretty annoying since I know what I feel on the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. </p>
<p>I know this post is about heterosexual privilege, but I also think a lot of this stems from the general distrust (though I feel like that may be too harsh of a word) a lot of people have towards bisexual people. Staci summed it up what I’m getting at with, “Straight men assume I’ll fuck anything that moves but the butch dykes I lust after don’t trust me.” </p>
<p>I also think there is a quantitative expectation with bisexuals. It’s like you have to parcel up your feelings and experiences so other people can judge whether or not you’re “truly” bisexual. Does that make sense? Like every individual factor gets considered. (Do you have sex with the same sex? Have you dated someone of the same sex? Would you ever date someone of the same sex? Are you dating someone of the same sex right now? Is it because you prefer the opposite sex or is it just down to chance essentially?) It can get pretty annoying since I know what I feel on the inside.</p>
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		<title>By: PandaDementia</title>
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		<dc:creator>PandaDementia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t understand feeling &quot;guilt&quot; over being the way you are. Frustrated at other&#039;s actions because of the way you are, yes, I get that, but guilt? That implies that you feel you are doing something wrong. So you don&#039;t fit into other&#039;s expectations? *They* are the ones that should feel guilty for treating you differently, not you for not conforming. 
I also don&#039;t understand how the way you look is &#039;privilege&#039; instead of choice. You could choose to dress more butch, but you choose to dress more femininely. That&#039;s a choice, whereas sexuality is not a choice and, I suppose, could be considered &#039;privilege.&#039;
I&#039;m either lucky enough to not have been treated differently or not to have noticed it when I have been out with girlfriends, so maybe someone can explain it to me, but the way I see it, guilt is for the guilty. You&#039;ve done nothing wrong, so why feel badly about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t understand feeling &#8220;guilt&#8221; over being the way you are. Frustrated at other&#8217;s actions because of the way you are, yes, I get that, but guilt? That implies that you feel you are doing something wrong. So you don&#8217;t fit into other&#8217;s expectations? *They* are the ones that should feel guilty for treating you differently, not you for not conforming.<br />
I also don&#8217;t understand how the way you look is &#8216;privilege&#8217; instead of choice. You could choose to dress more butch, but you choose to dress more femininely. That&#8217;s a choice, whereas sexuality is not a choice and, I suppose, could be considered &#8216;privilege.&#8217;<br />
I&#8217;m either lucky enough to not have been treated differently or not to have noticed it when I have been out with girlfriends, so maybe someone can explain it to me, but the way I see it, guilt is for the guilty. You&#8217;ve done nothing wrong, so why feel badly about it?</p>
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