<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: No Means No, Regardless of the Forum</title>
	<atom:link href="/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/</link>
	<description>I&#039;m nothing but a brash and impetuous girl striving to be true to myself while searching for somewhere to belong, someone to love, and a better version of me.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:22:48 -0400</lastBuildDate>
	
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: PrettyPrettyPrincess</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12021</link>
		<dc:creator>PrettyPrettyPrincess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12021</guid>
		<description>You&#039;re right, it isn&#039;t different from getting flashed. Unsolicited cock pix (or TEXTS, on my IPHONE, where it flashes on the screen and my coworkers can see it) are really jarring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, it isn&#8217;t different from getting flashed. Unsolicited cock pix (or TEXTS, on my IPHONE, where it flashes on the screen and my coworkers can see it) are really jarring.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarahbear</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12018</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarahbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12018</guid>
		<description>I agree with this.

I understand how people could think that online interactions wouldn&#039;t have as much of an impact as physical ones. It&#039;s the same line of thinking that goes along with online relationships not being taken seriously and such. People like to think of the internet as less &#039;real&#039;. But it is very real. So real that online harassment has caused people to hurt or even kill themselves. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair at all to suggest that sexual harassment online can&#039;t be equated to the kind that&#039;s done in person. Harassment is harassment is harassment. It&#039;s all damaging and uncalled for, no matter what forum.

Excellent post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this.</p>
<p>I understand how people could think that online interactions wouldn&#8217;t have as much of an impact as physical ones. It&#8217;s the same line of thinking that goes along with online relationships not being taken seriously and such. People like to think of the internet as less &#8216;real&#8217;. But it is very real. So real that online harassment has caused people to hurt or even kill themselves. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair at all to suggest that sexual harassment online can&#8217;t be equated to the kind that&#8217;s done in person. Harassment is harassment is harassment. It&#8217;s all damaging and uncalled for, no matter what forum.</p>
<p>Excellent post.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12012</link>
		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12012</guid>
		<description>It wasn&#039;t something I had even considered until recently, as I said in my post. Like, how many times do I have to say no? I should only have to say it once. And when I open my email to a picture of some dude&#039;s cock that I didn&#039;t ask for or want to see, how is that really any different than some guy exposing himself to me on the subway? It really isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t something I had even considered until recently, as I said in my post. Like, how many times do I have to say no? I should only have to say it once. And when I open my email to a picture of some dude&#8217;s cock that I didn&#8217;t ask for or want to see, how is that really any different than some guy exposing himself to me on the subway? It really isn&#8217;t.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alana</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12011</link>
		<dc:creator>alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12011</guid>
		<description>Oh and by &quot;best of us&quot;  I meant myself (just in case that wasn&#039;t clear lol).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by &#8220;best of us&#8221;  I meant myself (just in case that wasn&#8217;t clear lol).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alana</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12010</link>
		<dc:creator>alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12010</guid>
		<description>I’m not gonna lie, my first reaction was in line with Eisnacht’s (though I wouldn’t have said it in quite the same way). Honestly, I had a visceral reaction against the idea that someone harassing you was the same as our physical rapes. 

But then I started to wonder why I felt that way. Is it because I genuinely believe that sexual harassment is somehow less traumatizing than rape? No I don’t and I DO believe that sexual harassment is a form of sexual assault. So do I believe that sexual assault is more acceptable than rape? No of course not. So what was it? I consider emotional abuse as bad as physical abuse so why is it my instinct to disagree with what you said? Well, considering the fact we’re bombarded with messages that women secretly love being harassed and that women are the gate keepers of sex, I’m gonna go with rape culture on this one. How many times has the rape of a child been reduced to the term “sexual assault” or sexual harassment been considered part of the working woman’s experience? While I do think being gang-raped is worse than online sexual harassment, this isn’t an all or nothing tally board where only the worst offenses are counted as truly considered being called rape. They are both wrong. And both reduce women to empty shells of people where the only thing that matters is their ability to be docile and please men.

Just another lesson that rape culture is as prevalent as we know it to be and even the best of us can not even notice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not gonna lie, my first reaction was in line with Eisnacht’s (though I wouldn’t have said it in quite the same way). Honestly, I had a visceral reaction against the idea that someone harassing you was the same as our physical rapes. </p>
<p>But then I started to wonder why I felt that way. Is it because I genuinely believe that sexual harassment is somehow less traumatizing than rape? No I don’t and I DO believe that sexual harassment is a form of sexual assault. So do I believe that sexual assault is more acceptable than rape? No of course not. So what was it? I consider emotional abuse as bad as physical abuse so why is it my instinct to disagree with what you said? Well, considering the fact we’re bombarded with messages that women secretly love being harassed and that women are the gate keepers of sex, I’m gonna go with rape culture on this one. How many times has the rape of a child been reduced to the term “sexual assault” or sexual harassment been considered part of the working woman’s experience? While I do think being gang-raped is worse than online sexual harassment, this isn’t an all or nothing tally board where only the worst offenses are counted as truly considered being called rape. They are both wrong. And both reduce women to empty shells of people where the only thing that matters is their ability to be docile and please men.</p>
<p>Just another lesson that rape culture is as prevalent as we know it to be and even the best of us can not even notice it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dmf</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12005</link>
		<dc:creator>dmf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12005</guid>
		<description>again we must be subjected to Eisnacht&#039;s fascistic view on language...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again we must be subjected to Eisnacht&#8217;s fascistic view on language&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ms.Inconspicuous</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-12003</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms.Inconspicuous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-12003</guid>
		<description>Yes. This. 

Every time I consider returning to blogging, I remind myself of all the dreck I used to get and I reconsider. (Oh, and the generally rude, inconsiderate and sometimes hateful comments and emails too. Sheesh.)

I can understand the erroneous-but-prevalent thought that the way to relate to a blogger talking about sex is with sex, but the come-ons and assumptions are just... strange. One gets pigeonholed by the reader--and they think that all you are is sex, and that you&#039;re available because that&#039;s what you write about. It&#039;s insulting and tiresome, and it makes one incredibly wary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. This. </p>
<p>Every time I consider returning to blogging, I remind myself of all the dreck I used to get and I reconsider. (Oh, and the generally rude, inconsiderate and sometimes hateful comments and emails too. Sheesh.)</p>
<p>I can understand the erroneous-but-prevalent thought that the way to relate to a blogger talking about sex is with sex, but the come-ons and assumptions are just&#8230; strange. One gets pigeonholed by the reader&#8211;and they think that all you are is sex, and that you&#8217;re available because that&#8217;s what you write about. It&#8217;s insulting and tiresome, and it makes one incredibly wary.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-11996</link>
		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-11996</guid>
		<description>Who are you to say what&#039;s &quot;less bad&quot; than physical rape? Because the thing is, when this shit happens to me, it triggers me. And it&#039;s traumatizing. And I&#039;ve had flashbacks. So, no, it&#039;s not &quot;less bad.&quot; And me telling someone that their unwanted advances are rape-y is NOT the same thing as calling getting a parking ticket rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are you to say what&#8217;s &#8220;less bad&#8221; than physical rape? Because the thing is, when this shit happens to me, it triggers me. And it&#8217;s traumatizing. And I&#8217;ve had flashbacks. So, no, it&#8217;s not &#8220;less bad.&#8221; And me telling someone that their unwanted advances are rape-y is NOT the same thing as calling getting a parking ticket rape.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pixie</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-11995</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-11995</guid>
		<description>This, so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, so much.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BobF</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2010/04/no-means-no-regardless-of-the-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-11994</link>
		<dc:creator>BobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://britisshameless.com/?p=2022#comment-11994</guid>
		<description>Since I began online dating many years ago, I&#039;ve had some interesting experiences. But none that come close to the stories I hear of what women must endure from idiotic men. When I read some of the IM&#039;s some of you get, I wonder about the mental capacity and lack of human feeling that must be going on in their pea-sized brains. But then I wonder why it is that such messages happen. Do they work? 

As I have written on Twitter and my site, Internet dating for an older man such as myself is work. The problem I face as an older man is that I can write the most intelligent and thoughtful opening message I can come up with; I can weave my words to show that I have read and relate to her profile description;  that I can show that I am a decent sort of man and that, yes, I am interested in knowing more and exploring the possibility of sexual discourse. But these thoughtful, well written  messages go out into the cyberspace ... and they are gone forever. No reply is almost without question the most likely result. None. Not a single acknowledgment that I have spent up to a half hour working on the message sent.

So I do wonder if the better approach is not the shotgun, as opposed to the highly targeted rifle I usually work with. The fact that so many women are barraged with senseless,  crude invitations makes me think that the guys sending those messages must be getting something they want. I&#039;m not sure what that may be, but we all hear (not saying I believe it) how women want the &quot;bad boy&quot; and not the &#039;nice guy&quot; for their sexual exploration.

That is not who I am however. I am a decent man who has a desire to expand his sexual experiences. I probably &quot;give up&quot; too easily. I hear a hint of a &quot;no&quot; and I am gone or at least pull back from the sexual banter. IRL this means that I tend to have a lot of woman friends and few lovers. Online, it means I seldom get to the DM&#039;s on Twitter or to hot IM sessions. I have been there, but it is more often the exception rather than the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I began online dating many years ago, I&#8217;ve had some interesting experiences. But none that come close to the stories I hear of what women must endure from idiotic men. When I read some of the IM&#8217;s some of you get, I wonder about the mental capacity and lack of human feeling that must be going on in their pea-sized brains. But then I wonder why it is that such messages happen. Do they work? </p>
<p>As I have written on Twitter and my site, Internet dating for an older man such as myself is work. The problem I face as an older man is that I can write the most intelligent and thoughtful opening message I can come up with; I can weave my words to show that I have read and relate to her profile description;  that I can show that I am a decent sort of man and that, yes, I am interested in knowing more and exploring the possibility of sexual discourse. But these thoughtful, well written  messages go out into the cyberspace &#8230; and they are gone forever. No reply is almost without question the most likely result. None. Not a single acknowledgment that I have spent up to a half hour working on the message sent.</p>
<p>So I do wonder if the better approach is not the shotgun, as opposed to the highly targeted rifle I usually work with. The fact that so many women are barraged with senseless,  crude invitations makes me think that the guys sending those messages must be getting something they want. I&#8217;m not sure what that may be, but we all hear (not saying I believe it) how women want the &#8220;bad boy&#8221; and not the &#8216;nice guy&#8221; for their sexual exploration.</p>
<p>That is not who I am however. I am a decent man who has a desire to expand his sexual experiences. I probably &#8220;give up&#8221; too easily. I hear a hint of a &#8220;no&#8221; and I am gone or at least pull back from the sexual banter. IRL this means that I tend to have a lot of woman friends and few lovers. Online, it means I seldom get to the DM&#8217;s on Twitter or to hot IM sessions. I have been there, but it is more often the exception rather than the rule.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
