Comments on: Hostage Situation http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/ I'm nothing but a brash and impetuous girl striving to be true to myself while searching for somewhere to belong, someone to love, and a better version of me. Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:49:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: alana http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10571 alana Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:42:29 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10571 Aw thanks April. Glad to see you back. Aw thanks April. Glad to see you back.

]]> By: April http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10563 April Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:29:40 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10563 I am a victim of domestic violence. I was beat and forced into submission, not allowed to move, locked in a bathroom, choked, and had many other violent things happen to me. Watching this trailer did not make me feel like that scene was diminishing my true experiences as a domestic violence victim. Watching this trailer did not make me uncomfortable one bit. It's not wrong to question how the images we’re fed by the media affect our views on issues like rape and domestic violence when those images portray rape and domestic violence or things of that nature. Like I said, if this were not done in the comedic fashion it was, then this discussion might be valid. But in this particular instance, calling it anything other than what it is, is reaching. I also believe that this particular scene contributes nothing to the dialogue of violence and relationships. If it did contribute anything it would be, "Hey, if you ever become a bounty hunter and you have to arrest your ex for skipping bail, don't throw her in the trunk. Some people don't find it funny." (I was being sarcastic there, sorry) Again, this is just my opinion. Britni, I sincerely appreciate that you allow healthy discussions on your blog. I also appreciate that you post things which keep my mind open and offer different views and opinions. And I always love when Alana comments because she's like the mediator. She reads both sides and then explains them both clearly. Thanks girls! I am a victim of domestic violence. I was beat and forced into submission, not allowed to move, locked in a bathroom, choked, and had many other violent things happen to me. Watching this trailer did not make me feel like that scene was diminishing my true experiences as a domestic violence victim. Watching this trailer did not make me uncomfortable one bit.

It’s not wrong to question how the images we’re fed by the media affect our views on issues like rape and domestic violence when those images portray rape and domestic violence or things of that nature. Like I said, if this were not done in the comedic fashion it was, then this discussion might be valid. But in this particular instance, calling it anything other than what it is, is reaching. I also believe that this particular scene contributes nothing to the dialogue of violence and relationships. If it did contribute anything it would be, “Hey, if you ever become a bounty hunter and you have to arrest your ex for skipping bail, don’t throw her in the trunk. Some people don’t find it funny.” (I was being sarcastic there, sorry)

Again, this is just my opinion. Britni, I sincerely appreciate that you allow healthy discussions on your blog. I also appreciate that you post things which keep my mind open and offer different views and opinions. And I always love when Alana comments because she’s like the mediator. She reads both sides and then explains them both clearly. Thanks girls!

]]> By: Nell Gwynne http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10562 Nell Gwynne Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:15:04 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10562 Frankly, how can you have a good comedic interaction with two people when one of them is stuffed in a trunk? Instead of watching the tow actors fight over the steering wheel, argue, etc, they have to communicate via phones. And I also don't buy that any ex, no matter how bitter, would just leave someone in the trunk and not seem to care. I also *love* how whatever reasons Aniston's character has for trying to get Butler's character to cooperate with her are originally brushed off. Overall, extremely cliched at the least, and triggering at the most. Frankly, how can you have a good comedic interaction with two people when one of them is stuffed in a trunk? Instead of watching the tow actors fight over the steering wheel, argue, etc, they have to communicate via phones. And I also don’t buy that any ex, no matter how bitter, would just leave someone in the trunk and not seem to care. I also *love* how whatever reasons Aniston’s character has for trying to get Butler’s character to cooperate with her are originally brushed off. Overall, extremely cliched at the least, and triggering at the most.

]]> By: Britni TheVadgeWig http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10561 Britni TheVadgeWig Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:13:07 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10561 Thank you. I expressed this sentiment to Molls in IM, but failed to do so in the post or comments. I guess I forget that some people will understand that when I post something like this, that's the point I'm trying to make, to look at the larger picture of what it says about violence and relationships in our society. I know I've made the point in other posts, and kind of see these rape culture posts as a series of sorts, a continuation of each other. I should probably elaborate more on the bigger implications that scenes like this have. Thank you. I expressed this sentiment to Molls in IM, but failed to do so in the post or comments. I guess I forget that some people will understand that when I post something like this, that’s the point I’m trying to make, to look at the larger picture of what it says about violence and relationships in our society. I know I’ve made the point in other posts, and kind of see these rape culture posts as a series of sorts, a continuation of each other.

I should probably elaborate more on the bigger implications that scenes like this have.

]]> By: alana http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10560 alana Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:07:34 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10560 I don’t think the problem is with the scene in and of itself IMO. Of course we should look at the movie in context and realize that no one was actually hurt and blah blah blah. For me, the reason scenes like this make me uncomfortable is because I have to wonder what they contribute to our dialog about violence and relationships. It’s the same when rape scenes are portrayed as funny or anything other then horrific. I can understand objectively what the artist was trying to achieve, but that doesn’t mean I still don’t feel like the movie/tv show/book/whatever is still diminishing the true experiences of rape victims. Should we get up in arms because of this one scene? No. But is it wrong to question how the images we’re fed by the media affect our views on issues like rape and domestic violence? I don’t think so. I don’t think the problem is with the scene in and of itself IMO. Of course we should look at the movie in context and realize that no one was actually hurt and blah blah blah. For me, the reason scenes like this make me uncomfortable is because I have to wonder what they contribute to our dialog about violence and relationships. It’s the same when rape scenes are portrayed as funny or anything other then horrific. I can understand objectively what the artist was trying to achieve, but that doesn’t mean I still don’t feel like the movie/tv show/book/whatever is still diminishing the true experiences of rape victims. Should we get up in arms because of this one scene? No. But is it wrong to question how the images we’re fed by the media affect our views on issues like rape and domestic violence? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Jess http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10559 Jess Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:27:53 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10559 I didn't laugh at the trailer simply because I think the movie looks stupid. But, I really didn't find it to be insulting or horrific. I didn’t laugh at the trailer simply because I think the movie looks stupid. But, I really didn’t find it to be insulting or horrific.

]]> By: Rockin' With a Cock in http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10558 Rockin' With a Cock in Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:28:03 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10558 I read everything you wrote in the post and looked at the pictures before playing the trailer, and the trailer didn't make me uncomfortable. I didn't find it humorous, because of how you framed it, but I'm pretty sure if I'd just seen the trailer alone without initial influence, I'd have chuckled. I'm with April on this one. I read everything you wrote in the post and looked at the pictures before playing the trailer, and the trailer didn’t make me uncomfortable. I didn’t find it humorous, because of how you framed it, but I’m pretty sure if I’d just seen the trailer alone without initial influence, I’d have chuckled.

I’m with April on this one.

]]> By: Tessier Ashpoole http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10557 Tessier Ashpoole Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:26:13 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10557 Great post April, particularly the bit about it 'never being funny to be shot at'. It's also worth noting that there is a similar situation in the movie "The Hangover" involving a (naked) male in the trunk. Great post April, particularly the bit about it ‘never being funny to be shot at’. It’s also worth noting that there is a similar situation in the movie “The Hangover” involving a (naked) male in the trunk.

]]> By: April http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10554 April Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:26 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10554 So the ONLY THING relevant to you is that a man put a woman in a trunk? If you're going to be so black and white, too, then it's impossible to have a conversation about the scene. I'm not trying to be mean, but I find that it's hard to have a conversation with someone who ONLY sees that a man over powered a woman and put her in a trunk. He didn't beat her, he didn't rape her, she clearly didn't seem scared of him, she wasn't kicking and screaming when he had her over his shoulder before he put her in the trunk, he wasn't intending to hurt her. But all of that and everything else about the movie gets set aside because OMG! A GUY PUT A WOMAN IN A TRUNK!! Forget everything else, right? So the ONLY THING relevant to you is that a man put a woman in a trunk? If you’re going to be so black and white, too, then it’s impossible to have a conversation about the scene. I’m not trying to be mean, but I find that it’s hard to have a conversation with someone who ONLY sees that a man over powered a woman and put her in a trunk.

He didn’t beat her, he didn’t rape her, she clearly didn’t seem scared of him, she wasn’t kicking and screaming when he had her over his shoulder before he put her in the trunk, he wasn’t intending to hurt her. But all of that and everything else about the movie gets set aside because OMG! A GUY PUT A WOMAN IN A TRUNK!! Forget everything else, right?

]]> By: Molls http://britisshameless.com/2010/02/hostage-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-10553 Molls Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:55:18 +0000 http://britisshameless.com/?p=1267#comment-10553 April - The scene in the actual movie may be anything, but the trailer was edited to show him picking her up and putting her in the trunk. So I don't care what may happen in the movie, that's not relevant. Whether or not he tried to handcuff her and put her in the back seat in the movie isn't material, the trailer depicts a man overpowering a woman and tossing her in the trunk of a car. The trailer represents the movie. Aniston stands no chance of getting away (as depicted by her stupid attempt to run in stilettos in the beginning.) She phyiscally poses no threat to the bounty hunter. And, as far as I can tell, she isn't some brilliant psycho who is going to cough up a paper clip, pick the lock on her hand cuffs, and kill the guy by making him swallow his own tongue. So why toss her in the trunk? April – The scene in the actual movie may be anything, but the trailer was edited to show him picking her up and putting her in the trunk. So I don’t care what may happen in the movie, that’s not relevant. Whether or not he tried to handcuff her and put her in the back seat in the movie isn’t material, the trailer depicts a man overpowering a woman and tossing her in the trunk of a car. The trailer represents the movie.

Aniston stands no chance of getting away (as depicted by her stupid attempt to run in stilettos in the beginning.) She phyiscally poses no threat to the bounty hunter. And, as far as I can tell, she isn’t some brilliant psycho who is going to cough up a paper clip, pick the lock on her hand cuffs, and kill the guy by making him swallow his own tongue. So why toss her in the trunk?

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