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		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bass Man: I&#039;m so sorry for everything that you had to go through. I actually do have male clients at work, too, that have suffered abuse. Most of them have suffered the same kind of abuse that you have. Emotional abuse can be so subtle and so hard to spot sometimes that we don&#039;t even realize that it is abuse. Building yourself back up after all of that can take time and a lot of work. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m happy that you have supportive children and that you are healing, one day at a time. It&#039;s always helpful to do some research on emotional abuse and how to spot it/overcome it. If you ever want any resources, feel free to let me know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone else: Thank you so much for sharing your stories. It really means a lot and takes a lot of courage and strength to talk about things like this, even to yourself. You are all amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bass Man: I&#39;m so sorry for everything that you had to go through. I actually do have male clients at work, too, that have suffered abuse. Most of them have suffered the same kind of abuse that you have. Emotional abuse can be so subtle and so hard to spot sometimes that we don&#39;t even realize that it is abuse. Building yourself back up after all of that can take time and a lot of work. </p>
<p>I&#39;m happy that you have supportive children and that you are healing, one day at a time. It&#39;s always helpful to do some research on emotional abuse and how to spot it/overcome it. If you ever want any resources, feel free to let me know.</p>
<p>Everyone else: Thank you so much for sharing your stories. It really means a lot and takes a lot of courage and strength to talk about things like this, even to yourself. You are all amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: ~sublimealice~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~sublimealice~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m (i want to say glad but that doesn&#039;t seem appropriate, so enter your own adjective here) that you realized this about an ex...my brother was extremely abusive in every of those ways except sexual, and it&#039;s hard to admit that someone who you know loves you would do that. the only thing from here on out is that is makes you stronger and HOPEFULLY you won&#039;t tolerate it again...which is why i was worried about the bruiser, because it seemed like more of the same. but then again you don&#039;t know me, so i&#039;ll stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#39;m (i want to say glad but that doesn&#39;t seem appropriate, so enter your own adjective here) that you realized this about an ex&#8230;my brother was extremely abusive in every of those ways except sexual, and it&#39;s hard to admit that someone who you know loves you would do that. the only thing from here on out is that is makes you stronger and HOPEFULLY you won&#39;t tolerate it again&#8230;which is why i was worried about the bruiser, because it seemed like more of the same. but then again you don&#39;t know me, so i&#39;ll stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelfy</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to come to terms with what happened between my sister and myself when we were little. Was it abuse or just silly games gone too far? I haven&#039;t figured it out yet... And I haven&#039;t told anyone, apart from my therapist and my girlfriend, yet either. I wish more people were as open as you are. But then again, I&#039;d have to start with myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m trying to come to terms with what happened between my sister and myself when we were little. Was it abuse or just silly games gone too far? I haven&#39;t figured it out yet&#8230; And I haven&#39;t told anyone, apart from my therapist and my girlfriend, yet either. I wish more people were as open as you are. But then again, I&#39;d have to start with myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bass Man</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a man&#039;s perspective here?  First of all, my heart goes out to you, Britni, and all the others here who have suffered from abuse.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it&#039;s not always the man abusing the woman - I suffered emotional abuse from my ex-wife for 15 years of marriage and ten years of co-parenting since we split up.  I&#039;m still trying to undo the impact of the belittling and manipulation which I suffered through.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Until a year or two ago, I wasn&#039;t ready to even think of actually dating again.  Not that I was bitter, but rather feeling undeserving.  But, now, my 15yo son has moved in with me and his social life is more active than mine. ;-)  He and my daughter in college have made me realize that I need to be strong and compassionate to help them deal with the ex as well.  She may be my ex, but she&#039;ll be their parent forever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep your head up, and know that they were the one with the problem.  We just have wounds, which will heal.  They will still have a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a man&#39;s perspective here?  First of all, my heart goes out to you, Britni, and all the others here who have suffered from abuse.  </p>
<p>But it&#39;s not always the man abusing the woman &#8211; I suffered emotional abuse from my ex-wife for 15 years of marriage and ten years of co-parenting since we split up.  I&#39;m still trying to undo the impact of the belittling and manipulation which I suffered through.  </p>
<p>Until a year or two ago, I wasn&#39;t ready to even think of actually dating again.  Not that I was bitter, but rather feeling undeserving.  But, now, my 15yo son has moved in with me and his social life is more active than mine. <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   He and my daughter in college have made me realize that I need to be strong and compassionate to help them deal with the ex as well.  She may be my ex, but she&#39;ll be their parent forever.</p>
<p>Keep your head up, and know that they were the one with the problem.  We just have wounds, which will heal.  They will still have a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ex-husband was like that. I won&#039;t ever forget the moment about a month after the divorce that I realized that I was not fat or ugly and I&#039;m not, but I really believed that for several years. After a relationship like that is over you have to step back into your own skin again. It made me see that there is nothing like the feeling of being me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ex-husband was like that. I won&#39;t ever forget the moment about a month after the divorce that I realized that I was not fat or ugly and I&#39;m not, but I really believed that for several years. After a relationship like that is over you have to step back into your own skin again. It made me see that there is nothing like the feeling of being me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2698</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you! Oh man, do I ever!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think what you wrote gave me a bit of perspective on the abusive relationship I used to have with my father. (I say &quot;used to have&quot; because I now have no contact with him at all) I&#039;ve always felt that there was something that crossed the line with my dad&#039;s behavior, besides the sexual abuse, but I never had a clear idea of what that line was. This post has clarified some of that for me, so thank you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best of luck in rising above! You&#039;re right that understanding and admitting is the first step...a HUGE step. I&#039;m proud of you for making that step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you! Oh man, do I ever!</p>
<p>I think what you wrote gave me a bit of perspective on the abusive relationship I used to have with my father. (I say &quot;used to have&quot; because I now have no contact with him at all) I&#39;ve always felt that there was something that crossed the line with my dad&#39;s behavior, besides the sexual abuse, but I never had a clear idea of what that line was. This post has clarified some of that for me, so thank you.</p>
<p>Best of luck in rising above! You&#39;re right that understanding and admitting is the first step&#8230;a HUGE step. I&#39;m proud of you for making that step.</p>
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		<title>By: breakingblues</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2697</link>
		<dc:creator>breakingblues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You work in a women&#039;s shelter? That is so freakin&#039; awesome. Sometimes I want to do stuff like that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My dad emotionally abused my mom. Sometimes that&#039;s hard for me to type, even though I was the one who encouraged her to get out for good 8 years ago (she did). Sometimes I want to try and rationalize it, like when my dad is nice to me, I&#039;ll think, &quot;How could he have done all that shit to mom?&quot; But he did. And if I ever do have any doubts, I think of the way he treated the dogs, and then I get kind of sad and angry. Or I think of how he tried to cut my mom off from her parents. Now I&#039;m getting ragey again. Even back then, he would treat me and my brother decently but my mom like shit (although he and my brother also clashed). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like you, maybe I still have issues to work out. But thank you for posting this. Sometimes I feel like this is an ongoing conversation with myself that will never really end or be resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You work in a women&#39;s shelter? That is so freakin&#39; awesome. Sometimes I want to do stuff like that. </p>
<p>My dad emotionally abused my mom. Sometimes that&#39;s hard for me to type, even though I was the one who encouraged her to get out for good 8 years ago (she did). Sometimes I want to try and rationalize it, like when my dad is nice to me, I&#39;ll think, &quot;How could he have done all that shit to mom?&quot; But he did. And if I ever do have any doubts, I think of the way he treated the dogs, and then I get kind of sad and angry. Or I think of how he tried to cut my mom off from her parents. Now I&#39;m getting ragey again. Even back then, he would treat me and my brother decently but my mom like shit (although he and my brother also clashed). </p>
<p>Like you, maybe I still have issues to work out. But thank you for posting this. Sometimes I feel like this is an ongoing conversation with myself that will never really end or be resolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Eternal Optimist</title>
		<link>http://britisshameless.com/2009/04/toxic-love/comment-page-1/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Eternal Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dealt with all of that, plus physical abuse as well.  I figured it out, and I got out.  It toolk a while, but once I realized that it wasn&#039;t going to change, I left for my own sanity.  I&#039;m glad you got out too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I commend you for helping others in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dealt with all of that, plus physical abuse as well.  I figured it out, and I got out.  It toolk a while, but once I realized that it wasn&#39;t going to change, I left for my own sanity.  I&#39;m glad you got out too.</p>
<p>I commend you for helping others in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it helps you too. I know first hand about feeling the way you do. After dealing with him for 7 years, I realized what a different person I had turned into. The first 4 years I spent doing what you did; always apologizing, trying to make things better, backpedaling, etc. After 4 years something clicked inside of me. I started to get defensive. When he would start his shit, I would see red and hit him. We started hitting each other. I would say so many mean things to him. I became a completely different person, who I didn&#039;t like. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s when I became determined to find a genuinely good guy. There is not one thing that he does that can be considered abuse. Yet I sometimes (not too often though) find myself being mean to him for no reason. Saying things that aren&#039;t nice. I always realize after the fact that he doesn&#039;t deserve it and that I was wrong and I apologize like crazy. I&#039;m just fearful that one day he won&#039;t forgive me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like you, I realize the problem is within myself. And I know what to do to fix it. It&#039;s just a matter of reconditioning ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it helps you too. I know first hand about feeling the way you do. After dealing with him for 7 years, I realized what a different person I had turned into. The first 4 years I spent doing what you did; always apologizing, trying to make things better, backpedaling, etc. After 4 years something clicked inside of me. I started to get defensive. When he would start his shit, I would see red and hit him. We started hitting each other. I would say so many mean things to him. I became a completely different person, who I didn&#39;t like. </p>
<p>That&#39;s when I became determined to find a genuinely good guy. There is not one thing that he does that can be considered abuse. Yet I sometimes (not too often though) find myself being mean to him for no reason. Saying things that aren&#39;t nice. I always realize after the fact that he doesn&#39;t deserve it and that I was wrong and I apologize like crazy. I&#39;m just fearful that one day he won&#39;t forgive me. </p>
<p>Like you, I realize the problem is within myself. And I know what to do to fix it. It&#39;s just a matter of reconditioning ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in one relationship that I know was abusive. Reading your post, I wonder if maybe another one, my longest term, closest relationship, was also well over the line between healthy and abusive. I&#039;ve always known it was close to that line, that he put me down and often made me feel like shit about myself. I wonder also if my father is a bit over that line, which is just tragic and hard to think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand that it takes a long time to work out and then to work through these things. It think you&#039;re right, though, that identifying and admitting it is a first step. I hope it helps you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been in one relationship that I know was abusive. Reading your post, I wonder if maybe another one, my longest term, closest relationship, was also well over the line between healthy and abusive. I&#39;ve always known it was close to that line, that he put me down and often made me feel like shit about myself. I wonder also if my father is a bit over that line, which is just tragic and hard to think.</p>
<p>I understand that it takes a long time to work out and then to work through these things. It think you&#39;re right, though, that identifying and admitting it is a first step. I hope it helps you.</p>
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